Thursday, March 08, 2007
Discipline or Pruning?
For the past few Wednesday nights we've been watching a video series produced by Bruce Wilkinson based on his book, "Secrets of the Vine." His book is based on the following passages from John 15:
15:1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.15:2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes 139 it, that it may bear more fruit.15:3 (emphasis mine) "You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.15:4 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you, unless you abide in Me.15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me, and I in him, he bears much fruit; for apart from Me you can do nothing.15:6 "If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch, and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.15:7 "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it shall be done for you.15:8 "By this is My Father glorified, that 140 you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples."
Discipline or Pruning?
Dr. Wilkinson states that there are 4 baskets being described here. They are baskets with:
1. No fruit
2. Some fruit
3. More fruit
4. Overflowing and abundant fruit
The “fruit” being described here are “good works.” Last night’s lesson was on going from basket #2 (some fruit) to basket #3(more fruit). If you’re in “basket (no fruit) #1,” God disciplines us (Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away;) by “weeding” and “scourging us.” It isn’t very pleasant but it is a sign of God’s activity in our life. Just as with weeds in a vineyard that must be pulled, sin that is preventing us from bearing fruit for the Kingdom must be “pulled” from our lives.
Then there is the “pruning” that goes on when God needs us to move from basket #2 (some fruit) to basket #3(more fruit). Dr. Wilkinson stated that for fruit to be more abundant and to taste good, the “Vinedresser” must prune some of the branches from the vine. If he doesn’t, the sap that makes the fruit sweet will be too spread out to make the fruit sweet. He knows that some branches must be taken away to insure that the remaining branches with their fruit will bear good fruit.
So if you buy this what are the implications? Here are some:
1. The pain you feel from God’s discipline when we are in sin and God’s pruning when He wants us to bear even more fruit can be essentially the same.
2. When you are going through this time and you’re not sure which is which, ask God to reveal any sin that you’ve done within a week. More than likely you’ll receive a call, email, or a visit from a brother who will reveal the sin if God is disciplining you.
3. If nothing happens after you’ve been praying for a week, smile! That’s right, smile for it means that God is pruning you in the hope that you bear even more fruit (good works) for the Kingdom.
I believe this lesson is applicable for churches as well. Perhaps when things are being removed (people, staff, programs) and a church and, or it’s leadership experience pain from these deletions, perhaps God is preparing that church for a time of bearing even more fruit.
Something to think about family.
Dr. Wilkinson states that there are 4 baskets being described here. They are baskets with:
1. No fruit
2. Some fruit
3. More fruit
4. Overflowing and abundant fruit
The “fruit” being described here are “good works.” Last night’s lesson was on going from basket #2 (some fruit) to basket #3(more fruit). If you’re in “basket (no fruit) #1,” God disciplines us (Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away;) by “weeding” and “scourging us.” It isn’t very pleasant but it is a sign of God’s activity in our life. Just as with weeds in a vineyard that must be pulled, sin that is preventing us from bearing fruit for the Kingdom must be “pulled” from our lives.
Then there is the “pruning” that goes on when God needs us to move from basket #2 (some fruit) to basket #3(more fruit). Dr. Wilkinson stated that for fruit to be more abundant and to taste good, the “Vinedresser” must prune some of the branches from the vine. If he doesn’t, the sap that makes the fruit sweet will be too spread out to make the fruit sweet. He knows that some branches must be taken away to insure that the remaining branches with their fruit will bear good fruit.
So if you buy this what are the implications? Here are some:
1. The pain you feel from God’s discipline when we are in sin and God’s pruning when He wants us to bear even more fruit can be essentially the same.
2. When you are going through this time and you’re not sure which is which, ask God to reveal any sin that you’ve done within a week. More than likely you’ll receive a call, email, or a visit from a brother who will reveal the sin if God is disciplining you.
3. If nothing happens after you’ve been praying for a week, smile! That’s right, smile for it means that God is pruning you in the hope that you bear even more fruit (good works) for the Kingdom.
I believe this lesson is applicable for churches as well. Perhaps when things are being removed (people, staff, programs) and a church and, or it’s leadership experience pain from these deletions, perhaps God is preparing that church for a time of bearing even more fruit.
Something to think about family.
P.S.
Thanks for the prayers on Steven's behalf. Keep them coming for he was in a great mood last night at church. Seems he might be pitching this coming Friday in our game with Merritt Island that will be broadcast by our local ESPN Sports Radio station. I hope he doesn't get disappointed. Thanks again.
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Thanks for the info. I am not much of a Wilkinson fan so have trouble not being biased. Glad you are getting good out of it and sharing it with us.
Have you seen the video series called "Walking with the Rabbi" or something similar to that. That is an incredible series. We used it in our men's group and I am still digesting it. Thought provoking.
Hope all is well there in sunny florida. They are here in sunny Arizona ... but I am adjusting to the heat.
Shalom,
Bobby Valentine
Hope all is well there in sunny florida. They are here in sunny Arizona ... but I am adjusting to the heat.
Shalom,
Bobby Valentine
I'm so glad your son is doing much better Cecil and that prayers are being answered.
Hopefully prayers will be answered for all of us as we are being pruned up and disciplined in our lives as Christians.
Thanks for the post.
Dee
Hopefully prayers will be answered for all of us as we are being pruned up and disciplined in our lives as Christians.
Thanks for the post.
Dee
Brady - This is the first time I've seen a "Wilkinson Video" and I haven't read any of his books so I don't have the "Wilkinson baggage" you may have. So far it has been a blessing to our church. Thanks for the comment.
Bobby - I haven't. Is it a Wilkinson Series? We've been sunny and "cool" in Florida for a few weeks now. I hope all goes well with your acclimation to the Arizona heat. Of course, its a "dry heat."
Bobby - I haven't. Is it a Wilkinson Series? We've been sunny and "cool" in Florida for a few weeks now. I hope all goes well with your acclimation to the Arizona heat. Of course, its a "dry heat."
Dee - Thanks. He received the nicest comment from one of the guys in the youth group last night. He told him, "I see your Dad's light shining in your life as you grow spiritually." Made him and I feel good.
I used to really enjoy Wilkerson's "stuff" and his book on the vine is one of his good ones. We watched a video series of his a few years ago that was just bad. Theologically bad. Since then we've stayed away from his stuff.
What Bobby suggested though, Walking with the Rabbi, is excellent! We went through an earlier version of that and it was fascinating. I think Ray Vander Laan does that one ... quite the scholar.
Hope S.Walk does well on the mound tomorrow. Especially against MI.
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What Bobby suggested though, Walking with the Rabbi, is excellent! We went through an earlier version of that and it was fascinating. I think Ray Vander Laan does that one ... quite the scholar.
Hope S.Walk does well on the mound tomorrow. Especially against MI.
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